Greenport Village Notes: How’d this get on the agenda?

04/08/2011 6:59 AM |

If meetings have a theme, the March 28 Greenport Village Board meeting was about process — who’s following it and who’s not.

First up was an application from owner Paul Henry of Osprey Zoning Corp. for a wetlands permit to rebuild what his agent, John Costello of Costello Marine Contracting, called a “dangerous, dilapidated structure in Sterling Harbor.”

Neighbors along Sterling Street generally favor the rebuild, with some concerns about parking in the area. But John Mancini was concerned about how Mr. Henry, who apparently filed the application only six months ago, got in front of the Village Board so quickly.

It took Mr. Mancini about three years to win approval to rebuild his Sterling Street home after a fire destroyed it several years ago.

The answer appears to be that somehow, the application landed on the Village Board agenda without having received clearance from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which the board requires before it considers a wetlands application.

Mr. Costello asked for conditional approval that would kick in only if the Army Corps of Engineers OK’d the project.

What he got was a unanimous board vote to table the application until the Army Corps of Engineers has weighed in on the work.

Next up, Trustee Chris Kempner tried unsuccessfully to move a resolution for a hearing in April on her proposal to ban smoking within 30 feet of a children’s play area. Mayor David Nyce and Trustee Mary Bess Phillips insisted the issue was still before the code committee on which all three sit. They accused Ms. Kempner of trying to bypass the process requiring the full code committee to first share its thoughts with the Village Board.

Not so, Ms. Kempner told The Suffolk Times Tuesday morning. She said she introduced the idea to the code committee Jan. 19 and has been trying to push it forward at three subsequent committee meetings without success.

“So many things get stuck and don’t move,” she said. “It’s a little disingenuous to say that I jumped it.”

She called her resolution “a simple fix” and that the code committee has kicked the issue around long enough.

Ms. Phillips said she favors the ban, but wants to adhere to the process. The mayor has said he doesn’t favor trying to legislate behavior, but he thought it should eventually come to the public for discussion after code committee members make a recommendation.

The board agreed to hold off a hearing pending the code committee’s report.

“I would rather move slowly and correctly,” Mr. Nyce said.

MITCHELL PARK

What’s allowed in Mitchell Park and what isn’t? That’s another concern BID members have, Mr. Acebo said. Although proponents of a farmers market on Saturday morning in the park said BID endorsed the idea, some members clearly aren’t happy about what they view as use of the park for a retail operation, he said. He didn’t specifically point to the farmers market project, but Leueen Miller of the Greenport Business Association did. That will be the subject of a special meeting at the Third Street firehouse on Friday, April 8, at 6 p.m., when proponents and opponents will have an opportunity to make their views on the market plan known.

On hold is a request from Sts. Anargyroi and Taxiarhis Church to use the park for the congregation’s annual two-day festival, July 16 and 17. While organizers said they would bypass any activities to which the board objected, Ms. Phillips said she wants church members to submit a list so the board can approve or disapprove each one. Mr. Nyce said he would work with the organizers to develop a more specific event request.

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  • Kempner was in favor of the ban, and wanted a hearing, Phillips was in favor of the ban, but was upset at the process, Mayor Nyce talked about common sense and behavior (it’s hard to believe that anyone would think that smoking at a playground would constitute good behavior or common sense), so I think the Mayor might be in favor of the ban also. So, it would seem the three members on the code committee pretty much gave their opinions to the board. But yet no hearing or vote, in engineering this process is called “paralysis by analysis”

  • Chris should should understand, this group will poo poo any suggestion she puts forward and then bring it up as there’s latter and say what an outstanding thing they did. It’s like when Osinski said get rid of the company running the Fire Dept pension, who were loosing money every year. Well when Mike left they came up with the brillant idea to change companies, What a gang.

  • Mitchell park should not be made into a commercial space it was created as Public Space for everyone to enjoy and not to be sold off in weekend “events” to “special interest groups.” A farmers market sounds great but not in the park. That’s where I take my kids on a Saturday morning to romp while I enjoy tthe view of SI and a cup of coffee, who wants bunch of trucks and hordes of people crowding us out of our park? The greek church and all other churches should have their “celebrations” on their own land, please do not subject all of us to your “views” and please we all know that these “fairs” are nothing but glorified flea markets. LEAVE THE PARK FOR THE PEOPLE !

  • I love your last statement. THE PARK IS FOR THE PEOPLE!

  • I seem to remember vendors in Mitchell Park during Maritime Festival last year. Did they need special approval to sell there? And what about art sales held there?

    If Mitchell Park is such a problem for everyone, why not consider the Jitney/LIRR parking lot? There is plenty of open space there, and it’s out of the way. Sag Harbor has a great Farmer’s Market in a similar location – on the way out of town but close enough to walk to the shops and docks.

    And can’t the market just have a limit to the number of vendors? It shouldn’t be this difficult to sell a few vegetables for a few weeks a year…

  • “If Mitchell Park is such a problem for everyone, why not consider the Jitney/LIRR parking lot? There is plenty of open space there, and it’s out of the way. Sag Harbor has a great Farmer’s Market in a similar location – on the way out of town but close enough to walk to the shops and docks.”

    Seems reasonable, unfortunately the sponsors of this idea disagree. Apparently their opinion is for this to be a success it must be in the park. A person would think, an idea that they say is so vital for the community (a one square mile community, “a walking village” their words) would be viable almost anywhere. They seem to be making it more about the site than the concept.

  • “If Mitchell Park is such a problem for everyone, why not consider the Jitney/LIRR parking lot? There is plenty of open space there, and it’s out of the way. Sag Harbor has a great Farmer’s Market in a similar location – on the way out of town but close enough to walk to the shops and docks.”

    Seems reasonable, unfortunately the sponsors of this idea disagree. Apparently their opinion is for this to be a success it must be in the park. A person would think, an idea that they say is so vital for the community (a one square mile community, “a walking village” their words) would be viable almost anywhere. They seem to be making it more about the site than the concept.